Wrong reasoning for maternity leave Sandy Grant

Philip Griffin15/05/2009 03:03 AM

It is interesting to note that major project house builders are now offering smaller houses with fewer expensive fittings again. 3 bedroom houses are a major feature of a new design of houses for one of NSW’s largest project home builders. 

Land is very expensive in our capital cities, but at least now it is easier to build cheaper homes.  And so to those who think they MUST work to pay off a hefty mortgage, consider what is now on offer and what is considerably cheaper. 

Good post Sandy!

Interesting news about the smaller homes on offer by builders. Hope there’s some demand! Thanks for the info and encouragement, Philip.

Hi Sandy,

I was talking to a friend here about this issue today. She told me that here in Mexico you get 6 weeks leave before the baby is born, then six weeks after - then its back to work! It is very common for grandmas / nannies / friends to bring the baby in to work to be fed in the carpark or the lunchroom!

I asked her if this was necessary because families couldn’t afford to be without the second income. She said in some cases yes - people generally live closer to the breadline (tortilla-line) here, but in many cases it was actually a self-worth / can’t get off the career train for a few years sort of attitude.

Oh - and schools, volunteer organisations etc have exactly the same complaint here as in Australia. There is no one to come and help the kids in school, help coach the teams etc. All these things are being professionalised and outsourced.

Pete

No servant can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.” - Luke 16:13

It’s a hard post Sandy - thanks for putting together your thoughts! The policy does seem to me to reflect increasing godlessness and anti-family (but yes in the guise/spin of “this helps you be a better parent”). Anyone who says so is damned as a mysogynisitic dictator.

However I would also add that it is just as big a problem for the blokes who abandon godly family leadership to sacrifice their all on the altar of career (ministry careers included) and or the idol of mammon. But, afterall, if the men are allowed to pursue their careers (abrev. code for neglect the priority of their family) then why shouldn’t the women also?

I think there has got to be a place for increased godly male leadership - by godly example not by macho behaviour or slavery to the idol of self image.

Again, thanks, it’s a hard topic to contain within a blog post but you’ve summarised some good points.

Al.

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Caroline Earley15/05/2009 06:31 AM

Hi Philip (first comment),
I’m wondering if the rise of 3 bedroom homes by builders may also have something to do with more people restricting the size of their families to 2 kids. Just a thought on a side issue…
And Sandy, thanks for your article. I agree that an underlying issue is the belief that unpaid work is not worthwhile work. As a mother, I come across this opinion all the time (“what do you do all day? etc). I’m trying to get better at quick explanations of the value of raising children and managing a home, without making anyone who has to return to work feel guilty about it.

Thanks Sandy, glad you said it.

My husband and I have recently run a series for our home group on glorifying God as men as women. We split into separate men and women’s groups for six weeks to talk biblical theology of manhood and womanhood, and then the practical implications of that (part of which is men and women making decisions now that will mean they can do marriage and parenting well in the future).

We have noticed that lots of people are happy to have a theoretical complementarian belief, but start putting it in concrete terms and lots of people get really offended.

In practice we (Christians) really don’t believe in the value and significance of motherhood.

Christian motherhood takes time. We can’t do it by remote. We need to be with children a lot, for years on end, if we are going to be doing gospel shaped and saturated parenting.

Training a child’s heart and character in a way that points to Jesus can’t be outsourced or short circuited.

I do agree that motherhood shouldn’t be considered apart from the crucial (although different) role of fathers.

Thanks again.

Professional women married to professional men generally have reasonable maternity leave, and can afford to take more time off, or even stop working, depending on how substantial their mortgage is.  The various talkback speakers are from this part of the economy, I think, and they may not accurately reflect the mind of the Government anyway.

Life’s a bit different at the bottom end of the labour market, where job security is much lower, along with the pay, and the legal requirement is merely six weeks’ unpaid leave.  How many women actually want to be at work at that point?  And how much choice do they actually have?  (Mortgages probably aren’t in the picture at all.)

You might be doing Elizabeth Broderick an injustice, too.  The reason women need to stay attached to the labour market is because of the divorce rate (~40%).  Divorce is a financial disaster for most women, but particularly for those who have been out of the workforce for a while—it’s harder to get a job, and it’s usually a lower-paid job if they do get one.  That translates to more social security payments, and higher public health costs, for mother and children.  In economic terms, it’s therefore more productive to keep women ‘attached to’ the workforce. 

And that’s leaving aside death or disablement of the breadwinner (still common), and the fact that most men these days no longer have have the level of job security enjoyed by Anglican ministers.  Ahem.

FTR:  I’m married, 2 kids, permanent part-time librarian; hubby has a full-time IT job which relies on venture capital funding, and we have a mortgage in an unfashionable Sydney suburb.  My parents divorced in 1976.

Pete, interesting to hear issues similar in Mexico. I recall hearing from CMS missionaries in Slovenia that it was standard practice for every child to go into childcare from a very young age, and that it was a radical thought to think of keeping your children home and to run things like playgroups, because the childcare people could actually do a better job than the parents! (Hope I am not misrepresenting the situation.)

Al, Caroline, Cathy, thanks for the encouragement and reflections. I am certainly conscious of the damage Christian men (e.g. myself) can do by being married to their work, even their ministry.

Ellen, I am so glad to have you commenting. Your insights are exactly why I said I was not sure whether I was for or against the policy itself. It was the reasoning for it that I was concerned about.

I can see how the policy may actually benefit lower wage earners, by enabling them to spend more time with a new child than they may otherwise have been able to manage. Although it seems to me the current family tax A & B has also assisted at least some mothers to stay home longer already.

And yes, you are right than Anglican rectors have pretty high job security. The same is not true for Assistant Ministers and Lay Stipendiary Workers. However I am the former, so no high moral ground for me!

Attitudinally, I want to dignify the unpaid work of mothering.  And I want to resist the idea that we need bigger and and more luxurious homes and contents and mortgages.

I am a full-time homemaker who has found that the argument of a mortgage to pay off is ridiculous. We don’t need to work to pay off a mortgage. We need to accept that we cannot have everything that we want.

My husband and I did have a mortgage but we sold it to finance three years of theological study for my husband. I’m pretty sure we’ll be living in rented houses for the rest of our earthly lives. But I’m not going to be here forever, am I? There is a place in heaven for me (John 14:1-4) that will be better than anything I could ever buy or rent here.

Duncan MacInnes15/05/2009 07:33 PM

“Smaller houses…3 bedrooms”.  To mean to say the ‘average’ is more than 3 bedrooms in Australia - thats nearly close to mansion size in the UK!!

I to fell for the lie that both husband and wife need to have full time jobs just to even rent. Sometimes I’m realy glad that I am wrong

Hi Sandy.

With much less thoughtfulness than you, I reckon I might have said the same as you - that there can be weird arguments for this policy.

http://oops.blogs.exetel.com.au/index.php?/archives/12-call-your-mum.html

By the way, one of my pet hates is use of the phrase ‘child care’ - it always refers to paid child care, never family or friends!

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