Wesley, charms and church planting Paul Grimmond

Nice one, Grimmo.

It also relates to some of your thoughts about reading the Bible with kids. It can be quite a challenge to explain the Bible’s teaching to young children in a way that is both simple enough for them to grasp, and yet not a fudge on what the Bible actually says. You’ve got to understand something very clearly in order to simplify it, or express it in a new way. Same with contextualization. Or rather, that is contextualization.

TP

Michael Jensen21/05/2009 06:25 AM

Hey, if those activits want a red-hot theological education, we ‘boffins’ here at Moore are ready and waiting!

Philip Nicholson21/05/2009 06:48 AM

I want to keep arguing for theologically trained church planters. One of the most complex jobs in the world is contextualizing the gospel in new situations without robbing it of its force and meaning.

Yes!! It frustrates me that so few of our best theologians end up in pioneering church planting but are usually steered towards academic positions. I think this is perhaps the most theologically demanding work of all since you are often working without structures which provide a safety net. It needs the best minds (along with the can-do activists) to establish churches with a good foundation.

I’m a little bewitched myself ... If we are saying that the sense of the line is “Jesus deals with our supernatural fears”, the “calm” works fine with me, and actually conveys the message better in my own mind. What does it mean for a fear to be “delighted” or “bewitched”? “Appeased” I can work with. Is this the particular definition Wesley was going with? Please calm/charm my confusion!

Paul Grimmond22/05/2009 07:09 AM

Hi Martin,

I’m interested to know why you are happy with appeased and not with bewitched?

At first, your arguments sounded very similar to the likes of some of the fundy KJV-Only crowd.
Whereas they opt to remain “charmed”, I was “calmed” to see you still included or alluded to the necessity of contextualisation. smile

Looking forward to more on this theme.

Cameron Oliver23/05/2009 02:16 PM

An abridged version of Johnson’s dictionary that was published 81 years after the original? We can do better than that grin The Internet Archive holds a 6th Edition copy of Johnson’s dictionary, published 1785 (see http://www.archive.org/details/dictionaryofengl01johnuoft). Page 366 contains the entry for “charm”, which I’ve copied below, minus the usage quotes taken from poetry of Shakespeare, Bacon, Dryden, etc. The ſ character is the long s.

CHARM, n.ſ. [charme, Fr. carmen, Latin.]
1. Words, or philtres, or characters, imagined to have ſome occult or unintelligible power.
2. Something of power to ſubdue oppoſition, and gain the affections ; ſomething that can pleaſe irreſiſtibly.

To CHARM, v. a. [from the noun.]
1. To fortify with charms againſt evil.
2. To make powerful by charms
3. To ſummon by incantation.
4. To ſubdue by ſome ſecret power ; to amaze ; to overpower.
5. To ſubdue the mind by pleaſure.

CHA’RMED. adj. Enchanted.

CHA’RMER. n. ſ. [from charm.]
1. One that has the power of charms or enchantments.
2. Word of endeament among lovers.

CHA’RMING. particip. adj. [from charm.] Pleaſing in the highest degree.

CHA’RMINGNESS. n. ſ. [from charming.] The power of pleaſing.

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