The same thing or the new thing Tony Payne

Are there also times when we need to change in order to keep doing the same thing?

Cyber-bullying raises the same issues - is it a new phenomena or using new technology to do the same old thing?  Do old school bullies blog with nostalgia about the good old days of thumpings at the school gate? Do grumpy old bullies chat about how texting pain just isn’t the same?

Robert ian Williams07/05/2008 06:20 AM

Dear Tony,

I Can’t believe ministry is scummy...its a privilege and honour...the highest calling a man can have to be an Ambasador of the Lord Jesus Christ.

I assume Tony was alluding to 1 Corinthians 4.13 where the apostle who elsewhere describes himself as an ambassador speaks of being the scum of the earth. (1 Cor 4.13)

Sorry, I’ve just re-read the original post and realised that Tony wasn’t alluding but gave us chapter and verse.
I’ve never found it hard to believe that ministry is scummy. It brought Paul cursing (& worse) and proclaiming Christ as Lord seems to do the same today.

It depends on what you mean by scummy. If we really are servants as ministers and that is pretty much all of us, we are to serve. That’s pretty scummy to be as Christ was, washing people’s feet, the last shall be first. Man Jesus is amazing.

In the area of Doctrine I have no problem.However I have at times been frustrated by an unwillingness of some clergy to seek or accept advice from members of their congregation trained,skilled and widely experienced in the areas of Leadership/Management or who fail the recognise that there is valuable material in the secular world. The insights and experience available being ignored or dismissed can mean an inefficient use of both human and financial resources,frustrate congregational members who see their “giving” unwisely used,decreasing both morale and support. More of the same? No please!

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