Of coffee, gospel and social action Tony Payne

Tony,
Thanks for that. I like the Chester / Payne articles and it would be good to see them available.

I like what you’ve said here and want to affirm it. Though it puzzles me why what you said about fairtrade coffee was different to what I’d say if we agree on this framework. (That is leaving aside the question of whether it actually helps people - which is a complicated debate obviously). So I wonder if I might see different implcations flowing from what you’ve said.

I wonder if you’d be willing to add (either as a new point or as part of 3) that the Bible is particularly concerned for the poor - so that even in “a leafy, materialist suburb” we have a responsibility for the poor.

I also wonder if you’d want to differentiate what is a ‘church’ responsibility and what is a ‘christian’ one. I find the church so bound into the idenity of being ‘chrisitian’ that I can’t really make the distinction in a hard and fast way, but I wonder if that is a distinction you would make.

trisha graham23/05/2008 07:51 AM

A helpful post Tony. The bible makes it quite clear that evangelism and social action are completely separate things and often we need reminding of this biblical fact.

You are also right to point out (in #5) that social action is not a ‘magic evangelistic bullet’. Once again the Bible makes it clear this is not the way to win hearts over.

Lack of social action can (in some situations) however, render any form of evangelism useless and ineffective. People are so sceptical these days about sincerity (and often rightly so) that we need to demonstrate that we genuinely care for and want to be involved in their lives all the time, and not just when it suits us (ie to evangelise). Social action allows us to build up a sort of ‘street cred’ with the local community, and helps soften hearts to the prospect of evangelism.

Sydney Anglicans need to find a better balance between evangelism/social action, but it needs to be done with a loving heart and with genuine motives. If not, the non-christian will see right through it.

Yes, I think this is a good list, especially point four. Doing the right thing may in fact get you killed! Sometimes I think churches see social action as something akin to marketing.

Stephen Jackson23/05/2008 11:00 AM

Disagree that ‘evangelism’ has greater weight than ‘social justice’ causes.

As I read the accounts of Jesus’ life and the messages he preached, I don’t think he saw a distinction between the two.  This was a later development in the Pauline tradition.

The compassionate life lived, and bringing the Kingdom of God to the needy and vulnerable were one in the same.

Our desire to individuate and rank these two concepts reminds me of the law makers that Jesus himself rallied against.

Cheers.

What is going on in Matthew 25:31-46? Is it social action or something different?

I think points 2 and 3 are shown in the parable of the good Samaritan (Lk 10v25-37).  This is a story about a man on a journey (=mission) who stops to help someone in need, then carries on his journey.  In the context it is Jesus and his disciples on a journey (= mission 9v51-62).  The parable tells the disciples that on their mission, should they find someone in need, they must stop and help them - then continue with their mission.  From this I learn that evangelism should be our priority, and that we help people as we have opportunity (Gal 6v9,10) but that we must not be sidetracked into social action alone.

Roger Gallagher23/05/2008 05:21 PM

Hi David,

Whether you think that Matthew 25:31-46 is a call to social action or not will depend on who you think Jesus is referring to when he talks about “the least of these brothers of mine” in verses 40 & 45.

If you believe that the “least of these’ is a reference to the poor, then Matthew 25:31-46, is, at the very least, a call to social action. Taken to its extreme end, I’ve seen this interpretation of the passage used to say that we are saved by our generousity and service to the poor.

However, nowhere else in Matthew’s gospel does Jesus use a term like “my brothers” to refer to the poor. Instead, when Jesus uses the term “brothers” in Matthew’s gospel (Matt. 12:48-49, 28:10), he uses the term in reference to his followers. Thus a better interpretation of the passage is that the way that you treat Jesus’ followers is indicative of your response to him.

This view finds support from within Matthew’s gospel. In Matthew 10:40-42, Jesus tells his disciples:
“He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives the one who sent me…And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones because he is my disciple, I tell you the truth, he will certainly not lose his reward.”

So, in my humble opinion, Matthew 25:31-46 isn’t the call to social action that many believe it to be.

Helpful comments, Tony.  I work for a Christian international relief org. and so I swim through these issues daily.  I especially appreciate your reminder, “There is an urgency and centrality to the gospel task.” 

Curious, though, where do you find your definition of “social action” (i.e., “empowering the weak, and working together with them to effect change in their temporary circumstances here and now”) in Scripture? 

I find concepts of “good works” (i.e., just, beautiful, or beneficial deeds) and “love your neighbor” in Scripture, is that what you mean by “social action”?  Do you see warrant then for political lobbying?  Protests?

Izaac Cowling24/05/2008 02:14 AM

In response to Mark’s comment re: points 2 and 3 are seen in the parable of the good Samaritan (Lk 10:25-37), it is also of interest Luke’s account of Jesus at the home of Martha and Mary (Lk 10:38-42) immediately following. It would seem that Martha is quite practically going about loving her neighbour, as she is busy with much serving. Yet it’s Mary who has chosen the good portion in sitting at Jesus feet receiving his instruction. Not to deny the role of social action and loving service just given in the parable, but it does highlight the priority of receiving Jesus’ teaching.

Thanks Tony for the informative,thoughtful and confronting comments.
May I make a few comments from my more muddled mind!
Point2.  Whatever is a part of God’s will is central to the work of the Lord.For example working to remove injustice,assisting the Persecuted Church,supporting the disadvantaged and evangelism are all urgent issues.I am sure that God will continue to spur some of his people to minister is such areas,doing His will.

Point 3.  Jesus is the perfect example of this statement. He was not just into evangelism but was often simply “doing good”,not unexpected as God is Love!

Point 4.  All of a Christian’s life is to be lived with unconditional love.We must love
God and our neighbour and such love will be unlimited in its expression and application to man’s needs.

Point 5.  Unconditional love will help unlock people’s hearts because such a love
brings God into the situation as God is love.We will be judged ultimately by how we have loved. Matthew 25:31-46.

Point 6 The great commission is not the only command or demand of God.A failure to emphasize and pursue all of God’s requirements will lead to an either or approach and a personal priority ranking which will be man made.
The great commission is a means to an end and not the end itself as crucial as it is.Doing all of God’s will is required.To love God with everything we have and our neighbour as ourselves will involve and include evangelism,social action and much more.

PS. I won’t mind being corrected as I don’t mind being confronted.

Roger, I don’t disagree.
I think the NT stresses in several places, including Matthew 25:31-46 and in James, that in serving our Christian brothers and sisters, we are serving Christ. But I also think that there is a reason that Christians have been at the forefront of care for the poor and disadvantaged, no matter what creed they profess or don’t profess.

There is something about being a follower of Christ that inspires the compassion for the lost and downtrodden which Jesus had and has.

I wanted to say how much I enjoyed this piece! As a Sydney Anglican for some 17 years now it’s amazing that part of me wanted to shout with glee about the potential for ‘good PR’ any time the church got into social action! I guess this came from my time in the army when soldiers were having a go at Christians, but one guy stubbornly said “Yeah, but I won’t hear anything against the Salvos. They actually DO something”. I thought, “Oh, I wish our church had a bit of that respect!”

As Tony and MJ and others have pointed out, social action can <i>lose</i> a bit of that just as easily. Thanks for clarifying that for me.

Reviving an old thread I know, but I thought this was the place to note Don Carson’s editorial in the new edition of <i>Themelios</i>.

He addresses this question:

Granted that we ought to be engaged in acts of mercy, what safeguards can be set in place so as to minimize the risk that the deeds of mercy will finally swamp the proclamation of the gospel and the passionate desire to see men and women reconciled to God by faith in Christ Jesus and his atoning death and resurrection?

It’s an editorial summarising what some evangelical pastors concluded - not an academic article itself - but here are his two main answers…

(i) Gospel ministers themselves must focus on their primary responsibility…

Ministers of the gospel ought so to be teaching the Bible in all its comprehensiveness that they will be raising up believers with many different avenues of service, but they themselves must not become so embroiled in such multiplying ministries that their ministries of evangelism, Bible teaching, making disciples, instructing, baptizing, and the like, somehow get squeezed to the periphery and take on a purely formal veneer.

(ii) Preach hell.

[HT: Justin Taylor]

[[I am guessing HT means something like ‘hot tip’ but whenever I have seen this sort of netiquette, it seems to be acknowledging the source, so I’m just copying the style.]]

I understand HT to mean “hat tip,” as you say, acknowledging the person who alerted you to this great piece of advice, wisdom, joke, tidbit, etc.

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