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Jensen on Driscoll Tony Payne

In the continuing conversation about Mark Driscoll's critique of Sydney Anglicanism, Phillip Jensen recently made some typically sharp and insightful reflections. Reproduced with permission.

Recently, Sydney had the pleasure of hearing Pastor Mark Driscoll. In a two-week period, he spoke in many venues, including my church, St Andrew's Cathedral. In the Cathedral, he twice addressed a packed gathering of Christian workers. His second address was a challenge to our evangelistic ministry of the gospel in this city: he lovingly told us 18 problems he saw we had. It was an address that caused considerable discussion amongst Sydney's evangelical community.

Since that address, I have been approached by many people wanting my opinion on Mark Driscoll and, in particular, his critique of Sydney's evangelism. As one of the people who invited Mark to speak to us, I am keen to keep the conversation going, and to ride the enthusiasm that he has engendered among the next generation of Christian leaders. I hope to look at the 18 points in the future, but before I do that, I think it is important to make some general observations about listening to criticism.

Mark Driscoll is a fine Christian man who has been gifted and blessed by God to undertake a great ministry in his home city, Seattle. He loves the Lord Jesus Christ as his saviour and Lord. He upholds the great Reformation doctrines of grace, and seeks to teach the Bible as he reaches the lost with the gospel. His gifts in oratory and communication are enormous. He is a great evangelist: he is able to communicate with his generation, and he makes the gospel clear and its claims compelling. His address to us in the Cathedral was more that of a prophetic preacher than an expositor of the Bible. He spoke as a Christian friend about the problems he sees we have. As such, it is important that we weigh what he says (1 Cor 14:29).

There are three obvious mistakes that we can make concerning such a message and such a messenger. The first is that of reactionary defensiveness. Mark was hard-hitting and critical. He said things that made us feel very uncomfortable, and he said them with force and vigour. He was calling upon us to change our ways. All of this can create defensiveness within us, and it makes us want to argue with him and explain ourselves. There are many ways in which we can defend ourselves: we can find fault with his manner or his choice of words; we can look for holes in his logic, or point out the minor errors of fact—especially about Sydney; we can qualify what he has said—to the point where we have domesticated his main points; or we can complain about what he failed to address (e.g. some found fault in his attack on young men because he did not speak to young women—as if he was supposed to say everything). We could also find fault with his rhetorical use of hyperbole, generalizations, stark contrasts and lack of nuanced discussion. But in all this, he is not dissimilar to Jesus' preaching. He is a man who confronted us with hard questions, and we must be very wary of our own defensiveness.

The second mistake is to become a sycophantic follower. Mark is a remarkable man with many clear and great insights. But he is not the only one, nor is he always right about everything, and nor would he want people to follow him instead of Jesus.

The prophet is without honour in his own country, but has great honour overseas; it is humorous to hear of the respect our preachers have overseas, and the honour that overseas speakers have in Australia. Certainly we have had many compelling preachers come through our city over the years. Each arouses a new generation of enthusiastic followers. Over time, we get used to the arrivals and departures of people like John Stott, Dick Lucas, Billy Graham, Bill Hybels and Rick Warren. We have been blessed with books and tapes from Francis Schaeffer, Tim Keller and John Piper. America is full of great preachers and leaders who influence Australian Christianity. Mark is not the only voice to listen to and learn from, and it is immature to think that any single person is the answer to all our problems.

Mark's challenge to us is timely and helpful. But his criticisms may be more helpful than his solutions. The gulf in church life between a denominational church in Sydney and an independent church in Seattle is enormous, and our theological perspective on church and ministry is also quite different. But this is not to say we have nothing to learn from him, or that we should not change what we are doing in the light of his challenge. Yet just as defensiveness is wrong, so is slavish sycophancy.

The third mistake is to do nothing. It is manifest that if we are going to reach our community, we must change. Mark has challenged us to change, and I believe he is right. Much of what he said is already in the Diocesan Mission statements. But having them in mission statements and putting them into practice are two different things. I was glad Mark spoke to us because he challenged us to change in the very direction we want to change. However, it is possible to spend too much time weighing what he said, rather than doing anything about it. He has caused a real movement in the camp, so it is important that we capitalize on his visit and bring in change.

Those who are defensive will oppose any change. Those who are sycophantic will wait until Mark returns to tell us what to do. We must avoid both errors. If Mark never returns, it will be a shame and our loss. But that is irrelevant to his message, for his challenge to us was to get moving, take initiative, and not to wait around to be told what to do next.

Here's the question: Even if we demur at some points, what are we going to do about those aspects of Mark's critique that were obviously and painfully true? What are the top three things we need to change? And how are we going to take the initiative to change them?

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Lookin’ good, Dave Gordon Cheng

I had lunch with Alex again, and we read the Bible and prayed. Thankfully he appears to blog in German. (I say ‘appears’ because ich sprechen nur wenig Deutsch, so, for all I know, he could be writing Polish and discussing the latest fabbo shopping bargains at the Birkenstock shop. I say ‘thankfully’ because whatever language it is, it means we are reaching different audiences, and not competing with each other to blog first.)

We came across a famous verse:

But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.”

It's from 1 Samuel 16.

This is all well and good—especially when you consider that Saul, the man rejected as king, appealed to the people because he was a BC basketballer and a bit of eye candy as well:

There was not a man among the people of Israel more handsome than he. From his shoulders upward he was taller than any of the people. (1 Samuel 9:2)

(Notice how no-one's even mentioned Barack Obama until now!)

The story tracks along nicely because the famous verse (verse seven of chapter 16) leads into a section where, one by one, the fine and upstanding sons of Jesse appear, and are rejected as future kings of Israel, since the Lord judges the heart, not the looks. But we hit a speed hump when we reach verse 12: young David, the minder of sheep, is brought in. What sort of boy is he?

Now he was ruddy and had beautiful eyes and was handsome.

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This is really unexpected. Surely after the build-up we would expect that the one who is anointed king (as David is about to be) would be described in terms of character, not appearance. And if we were to hear about appearance, we might even expect that the next king of Israel would be as ugly as, er, sin. I even once heard a speaker explain that ‘ruddy’ probably meant that David had acne, so keen was he to make this verse fit with the idea that David's appearance was not up to what you would expect at Facelift Central.

All this left both Alex and me scratching our heads, to some extent. But a thought did occur to us: what if this was the writer's way of saying that even David, for all his greatness and anointing by God's Spirit, would turn out to be a slightly more humanly fallible king than what seemed promised? He would turn out to be a king who didn't quite manage to break out of the pattern set by Saul: he was humanly attractive, but he had fatal flaws that had the potential to undo him completely. Maybe David is going to turn out a bit too much like Saul for comfort. The only way to find out is to read on.

Whether or not this explains the focus on David's beautiful appearance, it can't help but remind us that when the anointed King of God's choosing did finally come—the Son from David's line—“he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him” (Isaiah 53:2).

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The strategy of God Tony Payne

Following on from my post on Driscoll, Phillip Jensen's article on strategy and tactics in Briefing #358/9 is now online. Here is the part I referred to:

In modern terms, Paul is talking about the difference between strategy and tactics. I'm sure, like me, you have endured strategic planning sessions where nearly the entire time is consumed in a debate over the differences between words like ‘mission’ and ‘vision’ and ‘purpose’ and ‘strategy’ and ‘tactics’! I am using the words as the Macquarie Dictionary defines them:

strategy: noun. generalship; the science or art of combining and employing the means of war in planning and directing large military movements and operations.

tactics: plural noun. the art or science of disposing military or naval forces for battle and manoeuvring them in battle.1

Strategy is the big thinking—the overall plan and the means for getting there. Strategy is done by Prime Ministers and generals who say, “If we're going to win World War II, we'll have to land an invasion force in France, backed up by air support”. Tactics is more immediate thinking: it's manoeuvring the pieces on the chessboard to achieve the smaller milestones that go together to make up the strategy. Tactics is done by colonels and captains who say, “We'll need to land this many troops at this time and in this place, depending on the tides and the weather, in order to secure a beachhead, with this many planes running these missions in support”.

If the strategy is to win the war by invading France, then there may be a number of legitimate tactical approaches to getting that done. But these options wouldn't include sending flowers, or running up the white flag, or deciding to land an invasion force in Greenland instead. Tactics sit under strategy, and are circumscribed by strategy.

In Christian ministry, as in war and business, we must not only have a clear understanding of what our strategy is, but how it relates to the day-to-day tactics. This is particularly important for Christians, because our strategy is not something we have to come up with at a vision-planning day. Our strategy is understood by revelation. It is God's strategy—his cosmic plan—and his way of getting it done.

1 The Macquarie Dictionary Online © 2008 Macquarie Dictionary Publishers Pty Ltd.

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What should we do about the cemeteries filling up? Paul Grimmond

Upon entering the lunch room today, I found a copy of my rather salubrious local rag, The Southern Courier. (Well actually, ‘salubrious’ is a bit of an overstatement; it is basically an excuse for real estate advertising.) On the front page I saw the little teaser for the article on page five: ‘Cemeteries fill up’. It's not exactly a title designed to brighten up your day, but I couldn't help reading. It ended up being, somewhat ironically, a piece about the difficulty of finding land in the south-eastern suburbs of Sydney—not for your house, but for your coffin. Apparently at the present rate of burial, cemeteries could well be full within 15 years. Mary Thorne, the President of the Cemeteries and Crematoria Association of NSW (I wonder how she introduces herself at parties?), stated, “It is a problem that has to be dealt with. It's getting urgent.”

The Department of Crown lands, which owns the land on which the cemetery is situated, is releasing a discussion paper outlining the issues and aiming to “explore issues and promote discussion within the community on the available options”. As I read, I just couldn't help wondering about the elephant in the room. When, I pondered, will someone release the discussion paper on the options for your eternal existence? As is the case with all things death in our society, we can talk about just about anything to do with it apart from the fact that it is going to happen to us. The cemeteries are getting full because we will die; what will happen to our precious pieces of eastern suburbs real estate then? I was reminded of the words of the writer of Ecclesiastes:

I hated all my toil in which I toil under the sun, seeing that I must leave it to the man who will come after me, and who knows whether he will be wise or a fool? Yet he will be master of all for which I toiled and used my wisdom under the sun. This also is vanity. So I turned about and gave my heart up to despair over all the toil of my labors under the sun, because sometimes a person who has toiled with wisdom and knowledge and skill must leave everything to be enjoyed by someone who did not toil for it. This also is vanity and a great evil. What has a man from all the toil and striving of heart with which he toils beneath the sun? For all his days are full of sorrow, and his work is a vexation. Even in the night his heart does not rest. This also is vanity. (Eccl 2:18-23)

May God give people eyes to see beyond the present difficulty so that they will contemplate the eternal reality! And may he give us the courage to keep preaching Jesus.

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Husband material Nicole Starling

As part of the extended Driscoll post-mortem (well, he's not dead, but you know what I mean!), I thought I'd contribute a few thoughts on one of the themes that came up again and again in almost every talk he gave, and usually several times in the same talk: his challenge to the ‘late-blooming’ young men of Sydney to grow up and take some responsibility. The basic formula was move out of home, get a job, buy a house, get married and plant a church—in that order.

Along with many other women in Sydney, I rejoiced to hear someone having a go at jolting the Peter Pans of our churches out of their extended adolescence—not for my own sake, of course; I'm very happy with the husband God gave me!—but for the many Christian single women I know who are looking, not for a buddy or a boyfriend, but for a good and godly husband. In the words of one single friend, “It's about time someone said something to the men in this country!! smile”. I'm also glad that he made his challenge concrete and sharp and funny and memorable: he didn't just give us an abstract idea or a general principle; he gave us something tangible, practical, specific for the men to step up to.

But I'm just not sure that the tangible, practical, specific things that he focused on were the right ones. In particular, it was the ‘house’ bits that I wasn't convinced by: is he really right that moving out of mum and dad's house, and buying some real estate of your own should be at the centre of the picture when a Christian woman thinks about what makes for ‘husband material’ in a man? I wonder, for starters, whether Mark Driscoll's research into life in Sydney (which was, in many respects, excellent!) included asking questions about what it costs to buy a house in this town. According to this study, the median house price in Sydney a couple of years ago was AUS $520,300, and the median household income was AUS $61,200. In the same period, the median house price in Seattle was US $372,400, and the median household income was US $64,100.

More importantly, while buying a house may well be a responsible and wise decision for many people, I can't see how the Bible encourages us to see it as the standard or universal option for Christians living in the last days. Even from the standpoint of creation wisdom, there are words of warning to be said about rushing prematurely into a big mortgage in a bid to snare a woman. And given the shortness of the time and the urgency of the work of the gospel, some men (and not just the ones who have the gift of celibacy!) may set their sights on a way of serving Jesus that doesn't involve owning their own home.

Nor was I convinced that moving out of home (into a share house of other 20-something-year-old men, or into a family home purchased in advance on spec) is the essential pre-marriage step for a man to take. Mark's answer in the Q & A at Katoomba Christian Convention's Engage conference (that the biblical mandate for men to move out before getting married is there on “page 2”—ie. Gen 2:24) was hardly good exegesis. In addition, to my mind, it wasn't fair to describe consistently the parental home as “mom's home”: why, if not for the purposes of taking a cheap shot, wasn't it ever ‘dad's home’? Surely there's a way for a young man to stay at home, earn an income, pay board and help out around the house (and save for a deposit on a house of his own!) without being some sort of immature ‘mummy's boy’!

So if those things are not the formula, what does make for husband material in a young man? What should I be advising my single female friends to look for these days? Well, here are my thoughts, and I'd love to hear yours:

  • A man who loves Jesus
  • A man who wants to do something worthy and God-glorifying with his life so that you could give yourself gladly to be his helper
  • A man who loves you (both in emotion and in action)
  • A man you can respect
  • A man you can desire
  • A man who has self-control (including control of his sexual desires)
  • A man who loves and wants children, who understands how central they are to the purpose of marriage, and who is eager to play his part in teaching and disciplining and caring for them.

What do you think? Have I left out anything important?

In addition, and so that we're not left with my long list of abstract principles, can you help by providing a few slightly more concrete, punchy, memorable ‘litmus tests’ that help you see if some of these qualities are there or not? Over to you!

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